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AltheaRose |
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January 29, 2013 09:53:05pm |
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Re: Harrisburg Crowd Clips |
Fantastic! I think this is my new favorite Deadhead Scene clip. It really captures the early 80s atmosphere when it was still pretty small. (Relatively speaking.) Also, I was there in '83 and not in '84, so I'm curious to know which shows they're actually from :-)
Unfortunately it's not dated, but it's a series of three news pieces plus crowd outtakes (each one repeated twice), and they're either from '83 AND '84 or there's an initial early story from the 5 p.m. newscast on crowds around town and then two followups from the venue that evening.
It could all be one year (presumably '84), but in favor of the "two year theory" would be the comment in Clip 3 about the show being sold out in the morning, whereas in Clip 1, both reporter and the local promoter (?) are talking in the afternoon and thousands of tix still seem to be available. Also, two followups seem unlikely. (It's certainly possible that they did Grateful Dead on the 5:00, 9:00 and 11:00 news that day, but the later two, at least, would have been shot at the same time with the same reporter, and we see three different reporters.)
There are also what seem to be outtakes of crowd scenes ... but why would they have saved unused footage? Obviously someone within the newsroom pitched the story, so OK, slow news day, but still, someone convinced the editor to allocate a LOT of staff time and resources to it, possibly doing it two years in a row, and then footage got saved. My guess is that what you have there is TV newsroom with a Deadhead cameraman.
FWIW.
Now to figure out which year is which ... Old NJ Head? Who else was there? Any thoughts?
This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2013-01-30 05:53:05
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light into ashes |
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January 29, 2013 10:23:16pm |
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Re: Harrisburg Crowd Clips |
Clip #1 is definitely before the 6/22/83 show. The town rep states they've never seen this big a crowd for a concert before; also, the concert is to start at 7:30, which is the time the '83 show started. (The '84 show was scheduled for 7.)
Clip #2 is a followup from the same show - it also mentions the "biggest crowd ever," and behind the interviews you can hear bits of Feel Like a Stranger, CC Rider & Ramble On Rose (among others), which were played in the first set in '83.
(So now your mission is to find yourself in the crowd!)
Clip #3 (the crowd shots) seems to be from 6/23/84 - it shows Touch of Grey, which opened the second set. No accompanying news story for it, though.
Clip #4 mentions that the 7:00 stadium show is sold out, so I think that's from 6/28/85 Hershey Park stadium. (That was also a 7:00 show, and I don't think anyone would refer to City Park as a stadium. The bit of music you hear in the parking lot, I think is Cold Rain & Snow? - the first song that night.) I love how skeptical the reporter looks.
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Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer |
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January 30, 2013 08:21:40pm |
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Re: Harrisburg Crowd Clips |
The last clip is indeed Hershey and at the end of the broadcast the lady says channel 7 news Hershey
If you look at the stadium in the clips, you'll notice nothing but a chain link fence about 10 ft from stadium. People were passing stubs thought the fence to get everyone in
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AltheaRose |
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January 30, 2013 03:17:34am |
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Re: Harrisburg Crowd Clips |
Good logic. I was probably giving too much weight to what the person who posted it wrote (they labeled it '84) in assuming there was a lot of '84 there.
The "biggest crowd ever" could just as easily have been '84, I'd think, if it surpassed '83. But the starting time would clinch it as '83. (Where the heck do you find starting times online? Good heavens.)
Interesting if that last clip is '85 (or even if it isn't), given the comments about gate crashing. That era was definitely coming.
If I spot myself I'll let everyone know, so we can do a nice little montage with Purple Gel's air guitar dance on 6/8/80 and Micah and Deb from ... well, I forget, but they're on a CD.
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January 29, 2013 11:15:49pm |
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Re: Harrisburg Crowd Clips |
All I recall is the smell of chocolate - or was that the river? ('83)
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